Tuesday, August 31, 2004

The Governator and the Elephants

The Republican National Convention has been put into full speed tonite. The RNC called out some of the heavy hitters tonite, including Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Bush Family. Is there anyone cooler than Arnold? I think not, and in the same breathe is there anyone more painful to listen to?

As for what he said, most of it was pretty good. The one thing that made me crack up was when he talked about how he believes in a party that does not get led around by business's but what is right for the individual. I mean come on Arnold, you are not fooling anyone with a comment like that. Most of his speech was very good, I feel he reached people, he definately has a magnatism to him. He also has a lot of bowtox to him, but we will get to that later. He played the war card alot, which was very suprising to me. It seems that the RNC is banking on the war thing and pointing out the positives that it has brought to the area and in the fight against terrorism. When he talked about where he grew up and his emmigration to this country and how much of a land of opportunity thios country is was very very good. And whether you are Republican or Democrat or anything else you have to agree that this land is great because of those reasons that he pointed out. The political process doed give me a tingle sometimes, I enjoy watching these conventions and seeing the convictions people have about this great land.

Now for the silly stuff:

-Honestly who has more bowtox, Arnold or his wife?

-I would still do dirty nasty things to Maria Shriver and she is about 60 years old.

-Barbra and Jenna Bush, they are hotties. Barb has a nice face and some good yams and Jenna is a little thicker with the bubble butt, and you know she is a total freak.

-How angry a man is Dick Cheney. He looks like he wants to go on a murderous rampage all the time. The Bush daughters (how funny is that to say) were up there making some little jokes and everyone was getting a nice little laugh. Then they make a Dick Cheney joke and they show him in the crowd not laughing or smiling, just stewing because he has not ordered the bombing of any brown people in the last 30 minutes. What a psycho!!

-Are there enough white people at Madison Square Garden this week? I have not seen so many old white people since....... well...............ummmm the last Republican National Convention

-How out of place is a black person at the RNC? It's like a white person at Showtime at the Apollo. I mean come on people these are funny fucking jokes

Well enjoy the rest of the weeks festivities.

Saturday, August 28, 2004

USA, USA, USA All the Way

Team USA has supposedly failed this country, failed the game of basketball and I guess made everyone in this country really mad, because they did not win the Gold Medal in the 28th Olympiad. Why is everyone mad? Last time I checked this country has had a backlash against the sport of basketball in recent years. So why are we so upset over the fact that we lost? There are many factors that go into this. The players in other countries have learned the game & play it at a high level, FIBA basketball is different than NBA basketball, and (to repeat from an earlier Blog of mine) we do not have our best team out there.

Chew on this fat for a few minutes, while I make other great points. Does anyone remember why we went to professional players in the first place? Because other countries were using there pro’s who were men and they whooped up on our team of collegiate All-Stars in 1988, we wound up with the Bronze medal. That was the only time we did not win the Gold medal (sans 1972 when we got robbed & 1980 when we boycotted). In Barcelona we ran out a team where 11 of 12 players were NBA All-Stars (of those were probably the three best players in the history of the game), in 1996 we had a team which consisted of 12 NBA All-Stars & kicked butt, then we got complacent and sent a team to Sydney which only had 9 All-Stars & we almost lost (that should have been a sign) but alas the Olympic committee assembled a team this year which contained 5 NBA All Stars (and 2 of those guys are 20 yr old Rookies). Like I stated three months ago we are the only country not sending out best 12 players over there, and when you do not send your best your chances of losing increase.

It is easy to dismiss this team, to say that they are Street Ballers who don’t care and don’t know how to play the fundamentals of the game. I have watched all of the Olympic games and what I have seen are no look one handed passes, around the back outlet passes, and scoop alley oops all of these coming from teams that do not have USA on their chest. Yes our shooting is lackluster, but we play style of game where shooting is not the most important thing. There is nothing wrong with that, it is just a different style. Also, please stop telling me how these guys don’t care and don’t try hard. I have been around high level basketball and do you know where the guys who don’t care and don’t try hard are? They are on the And 1 Mix Tape Tour or down at a park giving you a million excuses why there careers didn’t work out. Allen Iverson works his ass off, he played almost the entire tournament with a broken bone in his hand. So stop giving me that excuse. All these guys gave their best effort. Have a problem with the other ball players in our country who did not want to go to the Olympics. Was Michael Phelps so worried about security that he did not go to Greece? No, these players went and gave there all and they failed to win. I guess since they did not win the Gold they should be exiled to Elba. Last time I checked all of you have failed at something too.

Now lets talk about the selection process of the team. And yes I will address the elephant in the room, RACISM. Let’s be honest with ourselves America is and probably always will be a racist country. Every time we lost or struggled the next day I spoke to a a myriad of people who all said, we need some shooters on this team like Fred Hoiberg or Brent Barry, I even had some people say we could bring Steve Kerr out of retirement or get JJ Reddick from Duke out there. Wow, what do all those players have in common, they are all white, and what don’t we have on the Olympic basketball team, a white guy. I looked it up, of the top 50 3 pt shooters in the league this year 28 were black, why can’t we take one of them? Why, because do you really want Aaron Mckie, Anthony Peeler, or Charlie Ward on the Olympic team? No you do not, but we did invite three of those top 50 guys to play, Allan Houston, Ray Allen, and Mike Bibby, but I guess all there pussies were sore so they could not play this summer. As for JJ Reddick, he was not even among the top 25 players in the country in percentage, heck Mike Boynton, Jr. of South Carolina hit a better percentage than him, so should we take Mike Boynton? So let’s all stop talking about shooters and how we need them on the team. We need to take the 12 best guys in the country, that is how you win.

Yes I know most of the guys on this team are not great shooters, but other factors such as the rules of the game seriously affect the USA’s chances of taking home gold. It is obvious that the level of international play has risen over the last 20 years. Since that has happened we have been exposed in their style of basketball. If we made them play NBA rules we would beat them in close contests and occasional blowouts. Here are the major differences in the rules and the game: The international ball is bigger in diameter, it is also made without grooves in it, which makes it harder to handle and palm, the trapezoid lane allows for more offensive rebounds on free throws and different driving lanes, the 3 pt line is closer (which in theory should be easier), there is no restricted area for charges, how you can use your hands when hand checking & guarding in the post, five fouls and your out, 40 minute games, and lastly 2 (most of the time atrocious) officials. This would all be like telling a baseball team to play with a ball where the seams were not raised, there is no second base ump, you walk on three pitches, and the game is 7 innings long. Heck our baseball team did not even make the damned Olympics, but I don’t here the outcry over that and baseball is America’s pastime. But I digress, these different rules make for a totally different style of basketball. Tim Duncan clearly did not know how to play post defense according to what contact FIBA allows in the post. Because of this he was in foul trouble most of the time and Larry Brown was forced to sit him sooner than he wanted. Also, the pace of the game is totally different at 40 minutes, there is less time to comeback and it throws off your timing and how you are used to pacing yourself. If you noticed after the game, most of the other team’s players were very winded, whereas the USA players you could tell obviously had something left in their “tanks.”

The three point line and trapezoid lane truly expose the differences in the game. In the NBA, when the ball is thrown into the low post and the post man is just outside the lane he is a legitimate scoring threat. Now at this point the wing defender has to make a commitment to either double team or stay at home. However, the post defender can try to deny the post player the ball by trying to front him and get over the top. If he decides to do that the best option for the wing player trying to enter the ball may be to drive the baseline and try to create for himself, or if he does lob the ball over from the top help has to come from the weakside and now things are created for the offense. That is they way things happen in an NBA game. Now let’s explore that very same basic basketball situation in FIBA. The post player is now about 4 feet farther away from the basket, the wing defender does not have to close out as far because the three point line is 3 feet closer. With the post player being farther out the defender can play behind him more and does not have to worry about denying him the ball. This allows for less activity on the backside where things can happen, and now the wing player is more apt to drive to the middle, but alas most teams want you to drive middle, especially when they are playing zone, because that is where most of their players are. FIBA basketball operates more from the center of the floor rather than choosing a side. This is not an easy thing to adust too.

Lastly we will talk about the one thing that does frustrate me about the Americans arrogance. But this is more an indictment of USA basketball which did not require our team to be together until July 23 in Jacksonville. That puts our team at one month’s time together, which is a short amount of time to come together as a team. Most of the international teams convened in early June and practiced for about a month, took one week off and then regrouped to get ready for their preliminary games. If you look at the US team they look like they are starting to understand each other on the court, as if they were about 10-15 days away from the start of the NBA season. Had USA Basketball had them report earlier they probably would have had a little better hot at taking home the Gold. Let’s remember that if before the games said to any international scout or anyone that knows something about basketball that Lithuania, Serbia-Montanegro, and the USA would only get one medal between them, they would have called you crazy. Heck Serbia did not make the medal rounds, they lost to New Zealand, Lithuania lost to Italy. These are unprecedented victories in International basketball. This is no longer a cake walk for the USA, even if we had some shooters or had role players like Ben Wallace & Bruce Bowen or sent our college players or sent our NBA Championship team, all suggestions I was told we make out team win the gold. Don’t be mad or be grudge the players that went over there and gave their best effort. Heck we are the same country that re-elected Marion Barry to office or cheered sports stars like cheer Daryl Strawberry. So let’s try and be rational and not just dismiss this group of men who did their best to represent our country in the Olympics. Are we this made at ever person who was favored to win Gold and failed to do so?

Sunday, August 22, 2004

Fear the Water & the Devil

It is that time again folks, Movie review time. This weekend, in between murdering all the people who I work with, I made it to the theatre to see Open Water and Exorcist: The Beginning.

Open Water was a terrific movie. This will certainly be underappreciated by audience's all across the country. The movie is very subtle, and you definately have to pay attention closely to the dialouge. When the 2 divers get stranded in the water they go through a cycle of emotions that is amazing, feelings of why did this happen, to paranoia about sharks, to anger at each other over whose fault it is that they went on this vacation, to fear of being stranded forever and a multitude of others. The dialogue between the actors is very real, there is not a great deal of poeticness or preachiness about anything in there dialogue. The movie was shot with video cameras which gives it a grittiness and a realism to it, the music in the movie was excellent, and as an added bonus the actress in it, Blanchard Ryan, fairly new to the big screen is hot and has great new york boobs. The end of the movie is very plausible, not over done or overstated with violence or gore which is so refreshing. As the movie came to a close the theatre was silent, then the credits began to role and the scene they so with the credits is very powerful. When the credits ended everyone in the theatre just got up and slowly walked out without making a sound, it was a very powerful emotion to experience.

Next I saw the new Exorcist movie. This unfortunately was not so good. It had some very disturbing imagery and nasty violence in it. It explains Father Merrin's first encounter with the Devil and his possesion of human soles. The concept of the movie is very engaging, and ancient church is found on the grounds where it is believed that Lucifer fell from heaven. Sometimes the movie is very over the top with it violence and attempts to scare you. The acting is okay and there is nothing else oustanding about the movie making, there is some CGI effects and basic filmmaking. You would definately have to be a fan of the first movie in order to even understand this one, and have to understand Roman Catholicism and their belief in possseions and all that stuff. Overall I would not recommend this one to go see in the theatre, sometime if you are at the video store and you cannot thin of whcih Jet Li or Vin Diesel movie to rent, you would be better served by seeing this one.

Thursday, August 19, 2004

People, and Why I hate them

Now we are all agreed I am a total loser, and I have very little luck with females of the opposite gender. Don Juan I am not, so when there is any chance of me getting a little piece. I need all the help I can get, not people hindering the prosecution.

So here is the deal. There is this new lady at work, whom I am definitely all about. My friends Matt & Jerome wanted to go out tonite, so we decided to go get some dinner and drinks at the Salty Nut. We call our buddy Tom and he says hey I am over at Jillians with all the girls from work (two of whom, Tara & Patti, I am friends with), he then says to my friend Matt on the phone, that girl Kris wants to talk to is even over here. I figure, perfect score, now I have a chance to go see her in a more social setting get to know her a little see what the deal is. Well by the time I get there she is obviously gone, but I see no big loss in that. So I am talking to my friend Tara and my buddy Matt is talking to all the other people that were around. It turns out all these people, none of whom I know, were anticipating my arrival. They said to Matt, oh that is that guy Kris who wanted to get here so he could talk to Gertrude (this is not her real name). What the fuck is all that about?? Obviously someone who I know and trust as a friend makes me look like a total freak, like I am obsessed with this girl. I mean who are these fucking people and why the fuck are they talking about me, you know what fuck them bitches. That really pisses me off, when people I don't even know are all up in my shit and talking about me, I will stab every fucking one of them to death.

Then next, my friend Patti pissed me off. We are talking and this other girl comes over and she introduces me to her. Very casually, she then asks me, "hey don't you think I should introduce her to Jerome and try and set them up, wouldn't they be cool together." Jerome, Jerome, What the fuck, and I chopped liver? I mean would I not be a good match for this girl? Do I not have a penis? That is some bullshit, and then I felt like saying (Jerome is a good looking guy) Jerome would have not have anything to do with this ugly fat skank. I really should have set that, then dropped kick everyone of them and ran out of the bar.

This was a great day to. I had a good day at work and even caught Old School Rap day on BET, watched some good Olympics. Dammit, I hate everyone, sans for the people who actually read this gibberish.

Wednesday, August 18, 2004

Glen!! Glen Glen Glen

Glen's the man going to work, got his tie got ambition........................


-Are the Olympics still cool and hip anymore, or are they just played out? I don't know I can never seem to get the pulse of how people feel about the Olympics. I always pretend like I hate them and that I am not going ot watch, but I always end up watching. I love the swimming and basketball especially, but I have watched Beach Volleyball, Ping Pong, an Synchronized diving. I still and always will hate gymnastics though.

-I heard maybe the stupidest comment ever made on sports television yesterday. J.A. Adande of the LA Times and Around the Horn is the culprit. They were talking about Jeremy Roenick who is being investigated for gambling on sports, in the story that broke it was said that Flyers GM Bobby Clarke met with Roenick during the season to discuss this matter and to be careful of the friends he was making and keeping in the gambling community. To this Mr. Adande said, "It is just gamblers, it is not like saying Roenicke has ties to organized crime or anything like that." How much of a monoslavic idiot is this man? Who do you think runs gambling you stupid ass?? Last time I checked it was the mob, it has always been the mob. I am sure when Bobby Clarke talked to him it went somthing like this, "Jeremy you know who these people are right(MOB)? And what they can and will do right? And if you get into any real financial trouble they are going to want tips on your sport, or maybe even force you to throw a game. That is what these people (organized crime) do Jeremy." So in my opinion JA Adande should never be allowed to speak again.

-Lastly we get to the fine organization who I am partially employed by, the National Collegiate Athletic Association. They have now turned down Colorado football player Jeremy Blomm for about the umpteenth time. All this young mans wants to do is go to college and play some football. He happens to be a tremendous skier and has a chance to compete on the international stage, so he needs to have endorsment money to fund his Olympic dreams. Is this any worse, or really much different from the multitude of guys who play Minor League baseball and then decide to go back to college? He is not making any money off of his football playing, he is not getting paid to play college football, basically it is the same as if he got a summer job. Once again the NCAA proves it lack of intelligence and integrity. By the way I am sure they won't let Mike Williams back into school either.

Saturday, August 14, 2004

Puppy Farts: The Wedding

Ahhh I remember it like it was yesterday, or last week. We all had some laughs, a few tears and even some bloodshed (I wish). Let us begin at the beginning, it all happened one day at the Pet Shop when I bought some turtles……..oh nobody wants to hear that crap. So let’s start at the top of the day, by that I mean when I arrived. Sitting in Rob’s room I received a brilliant phone call from Tom (Dann’s brother in law whom I have never met); he asked me where Dann was and why he woke up with Vaseline all over his ass, what a great line. He then proceeds to come down to the room and start complaining to me and Colin that Dann has stolen his television remote. So I was privileged enough to attend lunch with the Groom and his band of merry men. Thi8s was stupidity waiting to happen. Mainly we talked about the missing remote control, Dann’s DUI, ands some girl named Bubbles, and how we where all going to do her. We realized that when Dann called Mr. Flynn to pick him up from jail that Dann was officially in it with Kellie for good. And also at lunch we got to experience the brilliance of Dann’s father, I mean this guy is special. I have never understood a word this man said.

Then it was back to the hotel to wait for the other wedding patrons to arrive. In this time nothing spectacular happened, except for Rob, Ken, and I sticking up the bathroom in Room 290. Then during some pre party drinking in Michelle Reynolds room she commented on how she wanted to get drunk and pass out, which would be the perfect opportunity for Turd and I to finger cuff her. But we will get to that later. Instead we were all off to the First Church of The Fat Neck to witness the ceremony. First of all Kellie gets some serious dap for writing all about Ken’s blatant homosexuality in the wedding program, I mean the line about shopping and design is spectacular. I was so happy that Tim Hare and I sat in the back of the church not around anybody; I think that was a great move by us. I loved the part of the wedding where Dann sat there and looked totally confused, which was the whole time. My other favorite part was when I caught Dann & Kellie talking about me on the alter. I mean for crimony’s sake this is your wedding day and the best thing Kellie could think to say to Dann was “Look how fat Slipps is.” Not “Hey that tubby bastard came to our engagement party and wedding all the way from South Carolina, what a great dude.” Nope she could only focus on my rotundness, god I love that. Oh and the other thing I hated at the wedding was when the Minister kept talking about the two words (Love & Faith, for those who were not paying attention) that make a successful marriage, I mean this guy would not shut up. Plus I think he missed on the two words, when he said two words can help make a successful marriage I looked at Tim Hare and said ANAL SEX, now that is what can make a good marriage. Anyway I digress, the wedding ended and now we shall hit some high notes from the reception.

-Showers and Billy both had suspenders on, I can only assume that when you have a child the first thing to go from the family budget is a belt.

-I got to meet Matt Hill, this guy kicks some serious ass, he is large and in charge. Him and I should have met a long time ago, we are brothers in fatness. I must also say his girlfriend is mighty fine looking, he must be hung like a circus mouse.

-Who knew Joe & Jess were pregnant. Look out Joe you may soon be losing all your belts.

-What was that whole Polish wedding tradition? I could not have been more confused; I thought this was two Irish freaks getting married. All of sudden people were making lots of noise Dann was wearing a stupid hat; it was like old times again.

-Speaking of Matt Hill’s girls, she had two great moments. One was when she asked us to point out the Gay groomsmen; she had only read Ken’s bio in the wedding program and assumed he liked men. Second was when she got up to go to the bathroom and her plate was hanging off the table, as she got up her huge cans nailed the plate and shook the table like and earthquake.

-Stacey Price’s breasts were as good as advertised, I mean those things are just rockets, I loved pleasuring myself to them in the hotel parking lot…………….I’ve said too much.

-I hated Mr. Belding the DJ, he ruined everything, including my request of Tubthumping for Dann, he loved that song in college.

-Brian Flynn and Ed Price’s toast were both awesome. Ed saying good luck to himself, and Brian making fun of Dann’s ridiculous neck.

-There were 2 mishaps worth mentioning, one was when Turd try to pour a beer, and just poured it all over Showers. Then there was the time I was dancing and Rob’s date got in the way of my fat and I nailed her and spilled her drink all down her dress, Melissa you where there.

-This is a somber note, but I think the no pants picture has worn out its welcome; we need to come up with something different, like a no Turd picture.

-The after part in 290 spawned some greatness; Rob’s throwing of the snacks, Ken trying to force his heterosexuality by commenting to Stacey on how nice her nipples looked, and lastly Whitey drinking enough so that he puked his funny face off at about 3 am. And finally my two best moments came with nobody around, first when Whitey called me on my way home and told me that I had taking one of his shoes. And secondly the realization that in all the fun that day I never went to the store and got a card for Kellie and Dann with some dough in it. So that has actually been mailed out today with my apologies and a little something for the happy fat necked couple.

Now for the awards portion of the program:

MVP: Ed Price, this guy is something else. He laughs at everything, he finds nothing offensive, and you can guarantee that when he is around a good time is bound to be had. He did not have one singular moment; his overall brilliance needs to be experienced on a moment to moment basis.

LVP: Turd, this guy has lost his entire luster. In order for him to be fun anymore he needs to just whip out his wang and start beating people on the dance floor with it.

Newcomer of the Year: Jessica (Matt Hill’s girl) for the reasons mentioned above, plus she was a good sport at our table.

Cool move of the evening: Pete announcing that he would not dance with Katie and that others were cordially invited to do so.

Dumbest thing ever said: Brian Flynn, drunk and stupid at 2:45 in the morning, exclaiming how he hoped Colin was not made because he “Caught the Gertle.” A simply brilliant unintentional funny moment

Thursday, August 12, 2004

Where have you gone Jackie Robinson?

If the great Jackie Robinson where alive today I truly believe he would be appauled by the current status of Major League baseball for many reasons, and chief among them would be the lack of African-American players manager and front office personnell. Where has the black ballplayer gone? What happened in America? Is it that baseball is seen as a ceberal game or even not flashy enough for the young black athlete to participate in? Think about it, if the young black male see's his only way out of the "ghetto" is to play professional sports than why would he not choose baseball? You can make more money than football and basketball and with 1/10 the physical strain on your body.

Why has the allure of this once great sport gone away? I wish I knew, I find nothing more enjoyable than learning about the Negro Leagues of the ealry 20th century. These league were a source of pride, empowerment to the community and most of all an economic modality for the city. Baseball in the tradition of all sports was handed down father to son, taught the game the right way and produced some of this countries finest athletes and finest men. Jackie Robinson did as much as any man in this country for equality, Henry Aaron was the embodiment of all that was good in sports, and the Say Hey Kid himself Willie Mays always exuded a youthfulness that we wish we all still had. Back in 1960 half of the league was African American and today that figure stands at 13%. That is dreadful, and when you consider some of today's finest players are African American; Barry Bonds, Torii Hunter and Gary Sheffield. However, the disturbing trend is that all of those players are outfielders.

As usual it seems that white people may have fucked up a good thing once again. Back in the 1960's black ballplayers played all positions in the majors, including catcher, pitcher and third base. By 2002 the black catcher and third basemen where nearly extinct, and whereas in 1960 only 20% of blacks were outfieders almost 40% of balcks are now outfielders. I guess the white man (like Al Campanis) thinks only balcks can play a position where speed and athleticisma are a nescessity.

To me it is a troubling reality that the black youth of America no longer see baseball as an exciting game. I watch the Little League World Series every year, and I cannot remember seeing a black ballplayer. Part of the fault lies in baseball itself, which markets toward the ever prevelant Latino population which is now taking over the sport. I want to see all races represented in all segments of athletics. I wish I could instill in kids that diversity is a good thing, but it seems even in sports in the country we still want to segregate ourselves. Deep down we seem to be a country that enjoys Jim Crowism of sperate but equal. There are no more white playing basketball, which was a game that grew out of the immigrants of the city, most prevelant among that population young European Jewish kids, but now they are all gone. Baseball heros in the 50's, 60's and 70's including great men like Monty Irvin, Larry Doby, Bob Gibson, Willie McCovey, Rod Carew, Joe Morgan, an Fegie Jenkins. All great African American ballplayers and I guarantee you LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony have no idea who they are.

Sunday, August 08, 2004

Coming Attractions

Coming soon, to a Blog near you:

PUPPY FARTS: THE WEDDING

Re-Live all the great moments. Slipps being fat, Turd stuttering, Joe leaving early, Dann being stupid, Kevin being gay, and somebody named Michael T. Dansberry. All the highlights of the day will be hit, including MVP, Newcomerof the Year, Stupidest thing ever said, and best Ed Price moment.

Hope you all enjoyed seeing me and hope we don't do it again anytime soon.

Tuesday, August 03, 2004

Life Blows

Really I have nothing to add today, or any other day for that matter. I think humans are avoiding me because they know how much they piss me off. I do have a weekend full of travel and slutty white women ahead of me. I am certain to have some great stories from a weekend spent in the BWI corridor with people who have names like; Whitey, Marshmellow, Showers, and Clog. And I am certain none of those stories will involve me and the slutty white women. So I will be tardy on my movie reviews because I will not get to the theatre until Sunday or Monday. Please keep reading the site and posting ridiculous responses three times in a row, MARK. I will certainly come up with something more entertaining to write soon I promise.

I leave you tonite with a favorite quote of mine:

"When a man, for whatever reason, has the opportunity to lead an extraordinary life, he has no right to keep it to himself"

Monday, August 02, 2004

Thurman to Cooperstown

NOTE: This is for the true baseball geek only.

On this the second day of August 2004 we remember the life and times of the great Thurman Munson. He was a Yankee, a Captain, a teammate and by all accounts a great person. So the question still remains why is he not in The Baseball Hall of Fame? There is plenty of precident here, Roberto Clemente was enshrined immediately after his tragic death, Sandy Koufax was a first ballot hall of famer for a body of work that consisted of 5 great years, and countless number of Negro League players were inducted for feats they may or may not have acheived. Munson career was tragically cut short, I do not think you can hold that against him. The only thin you can do is examine his body of work as it exists and compare it to his contemperaries. Me being the baseball freak, I have done the research for you and will now present it to you.

Thurman Munson played 11 seasons and made 7 All-Star appearences. He was the 1970 Rookie of the Year, 1976 AL MVP, and 3 Time Gold Glove winner. He batted .292 for his career, had 3 100 RBI Seasons, and 5 seasons were he batted over .300. Those are some very good numbers, he was always amongst the best players in the league, and he was known as the best clutch hitter in the game. That was most evident in the post season, where he batted .357 slugged .497 and had 22 RBI in just 30 games.

Here is a list of people who played alongside Munson wh are all in the Hall of Fam: Carlton Fisk, Tony Perez, Reggie Jackson, Rod Carew, Joe Morgan, Johnny Bench, Carl Yastremski, Willie Stargell, Billy Williams and Willie McCovey. Now some of these guys can be excluded from the argument because they have the magic numbers to get in the Hall, such as: Jackson (500 HR), Carew (3,000 Hits), Yaz (3,000), and McCovey (500). So now lets look at the rest of these guys.

Fisk.... .269 BA/3 .300 plus seasons/ 2 100 RBI Seasons/11 All Star games


Perez... .279 BA/2 .300 plus seasons/.238 BA & 25 RBI in 47 post season games


Morgan .271 BA/2 .300 plus seasons/ .182 post season BA


Bench... .267 BA/1 .300 plus season/ 154 hits per 162(Munson 177)/ .266 20 RBI in 45 post season games


Stargell .282/5 100 RBI seasons/3 .300 plus seasons/ 7 All Star games/ .266 20 RBI in 36 post season games


Williams .290/3 100 RBI seasons/5 .300 plus seasons/6 All Star games

I will leave the rest up to you.